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06.04.2021, 10:01 Uhr
Ronald Wendt
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So i had a little time to waste today and i played the Art of War campaign trying to get the Gold medal for it.

Not only was i limited to normal victories, which is sad, i also came across some mistakes:

The end of Belgrade looks like this in German:



And the campaign result was this:



And i did not get a well earned silver medal in the menu.


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07.04.2021, 10:11 Uhr
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Hi Ronald,

Did you get brilliant victory in any scenarios?

Kutno - using 2 Stukas for bombing and the remaining one for recon you should be able to finish the scenario in 5 turns. You will not take Kutno on turn 1 but you can bring 3 of your units next to it so the defenders cannot reinforce. Then you take Kutno on the second turn. Turn 3 is for finishing any units that may be retreating from Kutno, and Turn 4 and 5 for capturing Zychlin, the second objective. Unless the weather gets really bad (I call such scenarios Operation Thunderstorm a.k.a. Op. Donnerwetter) Kutno can be done in 5 turns.
Maybe I need to make an AAR for this campaign.

Eben Emael needs good luck to be completed as a brilliant victory as it must be done in 1 turn (the original scenario also has a 1 turn BV.)
The fortress itself is tough and there is also a guarded bridge that will take one of the airborne groups to attack it - I need to test it more times.

The message at the end seems to have a bug that can be fixed by the new editor, I need to take a look at that. And the campaign result needs texts it they are not there.

As this is a short campaign with small scenarios, I will take a look at it. I have not played it so many times, maybe 1 or 2, as the focus was on the large Eastern Front. You will ree a revised Art of War in a week or so.
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07.04.2021, 12:12 Uhr
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Eben-Emael is a lottery. Even with a perfect plan you only have a 50/50 chance to get a brilliant victory for that scenario, so you may need several replays to get a gold medal.

There is one more problem with Belgrade: the ''drunk drivers problem''. Artillery Regiment 643 (the one in the middle) has fuel but cannot move on turn 1. The two other artillery regiments are not ready so they need to resupply first (in Op Barbarossa game Belgrade is a supply tutorial) but 643 should be able to move and fire on turn 1; even if it runs out of ammo and has to resupply on turn 2.

The campaign debriefing files are missing so I will have to add them.
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08.04.2021, 02:43 Uhr
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I have an older version of Art of War campaign file, and it seems it has no mission debriefings at all - it would save some time and typing if I could get the one from the game.

As well as the Belgrade scenario. I will need to check the scenario end, it may have the 0-1-2-3 codes instead of victory/defeat. Also there is the drunk drivers problem in Belgrade scenario.

I also found a Dubno-Brody scenario for the Art of War campaign (it comes after Belgrade) and there is a Prague map converted from Op Barbarossa, units are in place but no events or briefings.
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08.04.2021, 07:07 Uhr
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AngrySwan wrote :Did you get brilliant victory in any scenarios?

No, i did not get a BV in any of them, but i think i did not play at my best either. I would have to play again to say more about the difficulty.


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AngrySwan wrote :I have an older version of Art of War campaign file, and it seems it has no mission debriefings at all - it would save some time and typing if I could get the one from the game.

I will send you the data via email after this post.


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AngrySwan wrote :I also found a Dubno-Brody scenario for the Art of War campaign (it comes after Belgrade) and there is a Prague map converted from Op Barbarossa, units are in place but no events or briefings.

An expanded version sounds like fun, Dubno-Brody is kind of a logical step, though it also is there as a single map - in Prague nothing was going on. it was literally for the first steps only teaching movement in the 2009 release.
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08.04.2021, 15:22 Uhr
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Some hints:

Kutno - aggressive attacks are the answer, together with some planning and recon. As you have 3 Stukas you can use some of them for recon (a Stuka regiment flying back to base can do a recon mission, or you can use 2 Stukas for bombing and the third one for recon. Weather can also have some effect on the results.

Eben-Emael - this scenario depends on the combat results. Even with the best plan the result may be not as good as expected and then you do not get a BV. This scenario may need several replays.

Belgrade - the drunk drivers problem has been fixed and with good use of artillery you can get a BV. The smart brains in HQ say tanks cannot attack cities. But sometimes they do, and they may even win, if supporte

Dubno-Brody - tested in the campaign, an interesting scenario. I renamed some units. The bombers are full strength brigades so I renamed them to KG 55 Greif instead of I/KG 55 Greif etc. As JG 3 Udett is only one fighter brigade, I will name the other fighter brigade JG 27.

About the debriefings, there is some addition to the text of Belgrade. The game editor does not show any additions. Maybe the hex editor can find them.
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08.04.2021, 17:41 Uhr
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But sometimes we do, if supported by artillery and having :1 superiority. (The fact that tanks get minuses for city attacks does not mean they should never attack cities; in just means the attack will be harder.)

I would love to see a division of Panzer IVE or F1 with Panzergrenadier/Schutzen attachments attack a city, it should be possible in the German Offensives campaign. In another forum I once published an instruction how a division can get 5 attachments, you just need enough scenarios. The Art of War is too short for that.
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09.04.2021, 07:26 Uhr
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Thanks for the hints - once the fixed and expanded campaign is available i will play it once more to get a gold medal.
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11.04.2021, 10:30 Uhr
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Hi AngrySwan,

so i got your updated version via mail and with your advise here achieved three brillant victories and i am at the new map of Dubno-Brody where i stop for today.

I did not play on the hardest level though, i left out detailed supply.

The bug in Belgrade is gone the units can move now in turn 1 and nothing else stuck out so far.

The report continues when i resume the offensive during the next days.
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11.04.2021, 14:39 Uhr
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Hi Ronald,

If you play with the standard settings (I never touch the resources per move) you can also do supply. These are short scenarios.
For Kutno you may need to resupply/reinforce the panzer regiments. By the end of the 5th day your infantry divisions may be short of ammo but they must be able to do the whole operation without resupply, there are not so many enemies.
Eben Emael is one move scenario (by the way, if you have an AAR for Eben-Emael I would like to see it.)
For Belgrade you need to resupply the artillery. Your panzers will have some losses, but with artillery support, they must be able to win; the opponent's defense is not that strong.
Dubno-Brody is an interesting scenario and there is more than one way to win it.
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Hi AngrySwan,

at this point i am even tempted to do a AAR of the whole campaign as it is very short and have played most things i only need to recollect them.

Eben-Emael is a bit different as its only one turn and i have to screenshot each move, but i see no problem with that.

Hopefully i have some energy left in the afternoons this week, so i can do a bit at a time.
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12.04.2021, 12:29 Uhr
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Hi Ronald,

It will be interesting to compare the tactics. In 1941 the Soviets printed a "Short information booklet about the German armed forces" (in Russian) and they say ''this is how Germans normally do it but they may do something different, they are creative.''

For Eben-Emael there is a super detailed plan and the HQ expects a report on the actions of each group and Fliegerkorps VIII.

Take your time, we both know that life is not a bed of roses...
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